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determine all positions - most wins as between equals most second places
etc.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/7749751.stm
Marcus
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This FAQ is posted approximately twice a month. (The subject should be
the same; if you do not want to retrieve it, kill the subject.) Between
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http://www.rasf1m.net/.
*NOTE* The FAQ has been split into two parts to avoid it being too long
for some people's rules.
Thanks to the following people who, amongst others, have had contributions
culled to make the FAQ.
Kim Andrews, Paul B, Sven Baumer, David Betts, Sergiusz Boron, Alessio
Bragadini, Lord Tim Brent, Stênio F. Campos, Simon "Bumble Bee Boy"
Cossar, Andrew Cosstick, Emma Crawley, GD, BF Dehay, Doug Farrow,
Pete Fenelon, Ken Fletcher, Mark J Frusciante, Tony Gartshore, Alan Gauton,
Thomas Gmuer, Lutz Goerke, Paul Harman, Ian Hill, Mark Jackson, Jak, Alan
Jones, Brian Lawrence, Jeff "Eskimo Joe", Olav K. Malmin, Julie Miles,
Dave Parker, Jon Petersson, Barry Posner, Rob, Duncan Rollo, Rui Pedro
Mendes Salgueiro, Martin Schmidt, Peter Scoular, Johan V, Mike Whooley,
Paul Winalski. A big thanks must go to Stephen M Baines for maintaining
this FAQ through mid-2001.
Apologies to anyone whose name was missed - it's not deliberate!
The FAQ may not have answers to everything you need - it is just a
collection of *frequently* asked questions and their answers, not the
answers to everything 
Corrections and additions are especially welcome. I do try to keep up
with the newsgroup, but to make sure of something being considered for
the FAQ mail me at mjackson@alumni.caltech.edu.
The FAQ is divided into several sections.
This introduction (Part 1)
1. Rules, regulations and governing body (Part 1)
2. The teams and cars (Part 1)
3. The drivers (Part 2)
4. The races (Part 2)
5. The circuits (Part 2)
6. Television (Part 2)
7. Sponsors (Part 2)
8. Manufacturers (Part 2)
9. Technical stuff (Part 2)
10. Miscellaneous (Part 2)
1. Rules, Regulations and Governing Body
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Q: Who is the governing body of Formula 1?
A: The Fédération Internationale de l'Automobile (FIA), headquartered
in Paris (F) and whose President is currently Max Mosley. In 1904
various national motor clubs organized the Association Internationale
des Automobile Clubs Reconnus (AIACR) to run international motor sport
(reserving control of national events for themselves). The AIACR first
issued an international sporting calendar and regulations in 1908, and
in 1924 formed a Commission Sportive Internationale (CSI) to formalize
the oversignt of Grand Prix and other forms of international racing.
The term Formula 1 came into use in 1947, when the AIACR reorganized
itself as the FIA. The World Championship of Drivers was begun in 1950.
Q: Where can I find the regulations to Formula 1?
A: The FIA's web site has the technical and sporting regulations; see
http://www.fia.com/sport/Regulations/f1regs.html.
Q: What are the main changes for 2005?
In an effort to improve the show two-stage qualifying is planned.
On Saturday cars will run one timed lap in reverse order from their
finishing positions from the previous race, with the cars permitted
to refuel but otherwise being impounded afterwards. The second
qualifying session will be run Sunday morning, reverse order from
the Saturday times, with no refueling afterwards and the grid
determined by the aggregate of Saturday's and Sunday's single-lap
times.
On safety grounds, and following the failure of the F1 Technical Working
Group to agree on a proposal, the FIA announced in October:
* significant additional restrictions on diffusers and front and rear wings
* single set of tires to be used for qualifying and race
(One set each of the two available compounds for comparison on Friday;
choice made early Saturday, with one new set for practice and a second
set for qualifying and race.)
* engines to last for two full race weekends
Agreement on improved wheel tethers and headrest protection, and on the
coating of certain carbon-fiber body parts to suppress the shedding
of sharp fragments in an accident, had previously been announced.
Q: Are other changes planned?
A: Again on safety grounds the FIA has mandated the use of 2.4 liter V8
engines beginning in 2006 in order to reduce power (and hence speed).
Significant restrictions on engine design and materials have also been
mandated. A provision to permit current 3.0 liter V10 engines during
2006-07 under RPM restrictions TBA has been promised, this intended to
give the independent teams a relatively low-cost option.
Radical restrictions to control costs and speeds have been floated by
the FIA for 2008. All teams save Ferrari skipped a January meeting
to discuss these; next scheduled meeting is in April.
Q: What is the Concorde Agreement?
A: The original Concorde Agreement (so-called because it was signed
at the FIA headquarters on the Place de la Concorde in Paris)
was between the Formula One Constructors Association (FOCA)
and the Fédération Internationale du Sport Automobile (FISA).
FISA, reorganized from the old CSI by Jean-Marie Balestre after he
became its chair, was the arm of the FIA involved in sanctioning motor
sport and had direct sanctioning responsibility for F1. FOCA was, as
its name implies, an organization representing most of the F1 teams (but
not all of them--Tyrrell and, I think, Ferrari were not FOCA members).
Its president was Bernie Ecclestone, then owner of the Brabham F1 team.
Through the 1970s the FIA had gradually allowed FOCA to
take a greater hand in the financial, promotional, and
organizational aspects of the F1 Championship. By 1980
FOCA was organizing the races and the FIA's role was limited
to rules-making and officiating. When Balestre took over
as head of the CSI he set about trying to get control of F1 back
from FOCA. FOCA baulked at some of Balestre's proposed rule
changes, particularly the ones limiting ground effects, and
a very ugly dispute ensued that threatened to split the sport.
(One race was boycotted by the FOCA teams; another, organized
by FOCA, was excluded from that year's Championship.)
The sponsors and manufacturers (engines, tires, fuel) had the
last say and forced both sides to hammer out the Concorde
Agreement, which covers the whole financial and organizational
side of F1 racing, collection and distribution of monies, etc.
FISA is no longer, its duties now being performed by the FIA's
World Motor Sports Council. FOCA has evolved into Bernie's
complex of companies; see "Who owns F1," below. Since the original
Concorde Agreement there have been several revisions to it.
The exact terms of the Concorde Agreement are not public, but
what it amounts to is that in return for contracting to show
up at the GPs that make up the World Championship the teams
receive a cut of the monies that FOA/SLEC takes
in. Bernie's company guarantees to the TV companies and the
promoters of each F1 race that at least 12 (or perhaps 16, or 20 -
sources differ) cars will show up for the race (currently 20 do).
The latest version of the CA limits the size of the field for F1
championship GPs to 24 cars.
The current version expires in 2008. In mid-January 2005 the
FIA, Ferrari, and Bernie announced the signing of a revised
Concorde Agreement, giving the teams a larger share of revenues,
effective through 2012. Reaction among the other teams has been
mixed at best; Bernie has given them an end-of-February deadline
to sign on, which so far the other teams don't appear inclined
to honor.
Q: Where can I see the Concorde Agreement?
A: You can't. It's secret, although some of its known or suspected
provisions are described in this FAQ.
Q: How much do the teams get for winning races?
A: The FIA doesn't get involved in money. Money is controlled by
Bernie through what used to be called FOCA. I believe that the
Concorde Agreement describes the "prize money" for each race,
and I think there are payments for the leading teams at quarter,
half, three-quarter and full distance. Maybe something for most
laps led too?
The revenue from TV rights is partially distributed to teams using
a points system derived from historical performances. As I understand
it points are awarded for:
* Placing in the constructor's championship (last 3 years)
* Number of years in F1 (1 year = 4 points, 10 years = 165 points
[Ferrari 50 yrs = 1200 points])
* Constructor's titles (25 points each)
* Constructor's championship points (last 2 years x 2)
* " " 2 (all-time / 10)
* Number of wins (last 2 years, 10 points each)
* All-time number of wins (1 point each)
Teams with points get a proportional share of the money. There is
also a separate pool of money distributed based on the previous
years constructor's championship. The *size* of the total payout
(reportedly 47% of TV revenues, nothing from the sanctioning fees
and other income realized by Bernie) is one of the issues behind
the GPWC movement (see next question).
Q: Who owns F1?
A: The FIA owns Formula 1, but has licensed the commercial rights
through 2110 to a complex of companies effectively controlled by
Bernie Ecclestone. The actual structure is arcane (/The Economist/
refers to "a complex tax-avoidance scheme") and the subject of
legal dispute.
The key elements are:
* Formula One Management (FOM), owned by the Jersey company Petara
* Formula One Administration (FOA), which owns Petara and is in turn
owned by Formula One Holdings (FOH)
* SLEC Holdings, a Jersey company (evidently named for Bernie's wife
Slavica, who controls Petara) which owns FOH.
Ownership of SLEC is divided, 25% to Bambino Holdings (another
Jersey company controlled by the Liechtenstein-based Bambino Trust,
whose beneficiaries are members of the Ecclestone family) and
75% to Speed Investments (yet another Jersey company). The latter,
representing the fraction of his empire sold off by Bernie for
a large sum, has passed through the hands of German media companies
EM.TV and Kirch and now, following the latter's default, is
controlled by three creditor banks (Bayerische Landesbank, Lehman
Brothers, and J. P. Morgan Chase).
During the Kirch period Bambino appears to have instigated
restructurings of the FOA and FOM boards that effectively place
them outside of the control of FOH. The result is that although
the banks "own" 75% of SLEC control of the commercial rights
remains in Bernie's hands. This does not sit well with the banks
(it renders their shares essentially unsaleable) and so far
legal rulings have gone in their favor. However FOA recently
issued new share capital, bought by Bernie for £1, which
diluted FOH's holdings to 50%. Legal and financial maneuvering
is expected to continue.
Complicating the picture further is a threat to the value of SLEC
itself. The involvement of Kirch raised the prospect of a move
of F1 TV coverage to pay-per-view, which was seen as a threat to
its advertising value by the major auto manufacturers of F1 - the
European Automobile Manufacturer's Association (BMW, Fiat, Ford,
Renault and Mercedes). As a result in 2002 EAMA laid plans to launch
a competing open-wheeled racing series under the name Grand Prix
World Championship (GPWC) by 2008, when the Concorde Agreement expires.
GPWC activities then alternated between negotiations with Bernie
and overt preparations to fight him. Recently their position was
weakened, first by the withdrawal of Ford from F1 and then by the
defection of Ferrari - but then bolstered by sudden support from
non-members Toyota and Honda, who had previously been neutral. Most
recently all teams except Ferrari, Red Bull, and Jordan have signed
the GPWC Memorandum of Understanding, the significance of which is
however unclear.
2. The teams and cars
=====================
Q: When was the last time a privateer won a race?
A: The last privateer to win a GP was either Jo Siffert in the Walker
Lotus-Ford at Brands Hatch in 1968, or Jackie Stewart in the Tyrrell
March-Ford in Spain in 1970. (Although Tyrrell bought both chassis
and engine that season some feel that the support he was receiving from
Ford, Elf, and Goodyear place him at least among the semi-works ranks.
It's a judgement call, there being no official body empowered to bless
privateership.)
There has never been a privateer World Champion. Moss came closest in
the Rob Walker-entered Cooper in 1959 when he finished third. Walker
was the first privateer entrant to win a World Championship Grand Prix
with Moss in a Cooper-Climax, in the 1958 Argentine Grand Prix.
The Mugen-Honda engine used by the 2000 Jordan was a factory engine
in all-but-name. The last World Champion to use an off-the-shelf
engine was Keke Rosberg (1982, Williams-Ford).
Q: Who owns which team?
BAR - BARH Limited, which is itself owned 55% by British American
Tobacco and 45% by Honda.
Ferrari - Piero Lardi Ferrari 10% and the FIAT Group 56%; 15% is still
held by the investment bank Mediobanca, which has sold 10% to
the German Commerzebank AG and about 7% to Lehman Brothers.
Former and current employees hold the remaining 2%. An IPO.
mooted for some time, is currently expected in 2007.
Jordan - Bought by Alex Shnaider in January 2005; he is expected to
restructure (probably replace) the team and rename it
Midland F1 for 2006.
McLaren - TAG McLaren is 40% owned by DaimlerChrysler and 30% each
by Ron Dennis and TAG Group S.A. (Mansouer Ojjeh).
Minardi - Paul Stoddart. Investment by Bernie Ecclestone and any
continuing involvement by founder Giancarlo Minardi have
been denied by the latter.
Red Bull - (formerly Jaguar, neé Stewart) Dietrich Mateschitz.
Renault - Renault
Sauber - Peter Sauber (37%); the remaining shares, formerly held by
Red Bull's Dietrich Mateschitz, are currently in the hands
of Credit Suisse (who are reportedly seeking other investors).
Toyota - Toyota
Williams - Frank Williams and Patrick Head (said to be 80/20)
Q: Who is supplying engines and tyres to which team in 2005?
A:
BAR - Honda [F], Michelin
Ferrari - Ferrari [F], Bridgestone
Jordan - Toyota [C], Bridgestone
McLaren - Mercedes [F], Michelin
Minardi - Cosworth [C], Bridgestone
Red Bull - Cosworth [C], Michelin
Renault - Renault [F], Michelin
Sauber - Ferrari [C], Michelin
Toyota - Toyota [F], Michelin
Williams - BMW [F], Michelin
[F] Factory [C] Customer
The South Korean manufacturer Kumho has announced their intention
to begin testing F1 tires in 2006 with an intended entry in 2007.
Q: What's known about possible changes to team lineups in 2005 and beyond?
A: Attendant upon Ford's exit from F1 racing Jaguar have been sold to
energy drink company owner Dietrich Mateschitz and will run under the
Red Bull label. Cosworth have also been sold, to Kevin Kalkhoven
and Gerald Forsythe, co-owners of the US-based Champ Car series, and
will continue to provide engines to Minardi and Red Bull. And Jordan
has been bought by Russian-born, Toronto-based businessman Alexander
Shnaider, who plans to replace the team in 2006 with "Midland F1"
running Dallara-built chassis from a base in England.
Also announcing a 2006 entry is Team Dubai F1, fronted by Sheikh
Ahmed bin Saeed Al Maktoum and advertised as the Dubai national team.
Negotiations are reported to be nearly completed on obtaining
technical assistance from McLaren and a supply of Mercedes engines.
Q. How much does each team spend per year?
A. Estimates are all that are available, and of course they vary. The
April 2004 issue of /F1 Racing/ gave the following breakdown (all
figures in millions of US dollars):
Ferra Toyot McLar Willi B.A.R Renau Saube Jagua Jorda Minar
==========================================================================
Wind Tunnel 15.55 11.94 13.28 13.56 10.40 8.24 11.71 5.65 4.63 3.39
R & D 22.60 22.14 43.55 20.90 16.99 17.40 15.03 10.80 12.97 0.21
Manufacturing 3.60 2.40 2.70 2.10 1.70 1.62 1.50 1.25 1.25 0.75
Engines 150.0 175.0 140.0 145.0 165.0 110.0 27.00 60.00 15.00 10.00
Travel/Accom. 18.54 12.36 13.39 9.58 8.13 7.72 7.00 5.45 4.63 2.36
Testing 68.87 66.60 59.88 74.16 36.00 35.50 25.00 4.88 5.10 3.80
Race Costs 32.77 25.87 22.08 23.92 20.24 21.85 20.93 17.00 14.55 9.77
Salaries 46.40 39.30 40.18 39.60 37.00 38.00 36.00 29.20 18.80 15.30
Drivers 50.00 6.50 15.00 17.66 7.00 8.00 6.00 4.00 1.30 0.60
Ent./Catering 9.90 6.40 9.16 12.56 7.41 6.90 4.40 3.70 1.69 0.40
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
[Total $2493] 418.2 368.5 359.2 359.0 309.9 255.2 154.6 141.9 79.92 46.58
On the other hand here are /BusinessF1/ magazine's 2004 figures:
[Total $2290] 336.2 321.1 313.5 276.3 244.2 300.8 142.4 229.0 76.20 50.34
And for comparison, /F1 Racing/'s team totals for 2003:
[Total $2141] 443.8 290.4 304.6 353.3 225.1 206.8 119.5 78.8 79.20 39.60
Take your pick, or make up your own!
Q: Is it true that there was a 6-wheel F1 car that won a race?
A: The Tyrrell project 34 had small, 10 inch diameter front wheels
that could be completely hidden behind the front cowling then
in common use on F1 cars. This removed the front wheels from the
airstream and thus reduced drag significantly, resulting in the
car going faster. The problem was that the tiny front wheels
didn't provide enough surface area for proper braking. The way
around this was to use 4 front wheels instead of the usual 2.
The car was pretty successful in its first year and actually won
at Anderstorp (Swedish Grand Prix 1976) for Jody Scheckter, with
Depailler second. It was less successful in 1977 because the
more complicated 4-wheel front suspension assembly added a lot
of weight, and Goodyear wasn't keeping up on tire development of
the 10" tires. Tyrrell went back to a conventional, 4-wheel car
the next year. Pictures at http://www.ddavid.com/formula1/tyrp34.htm
and http://www.evil-photographer.com/cars/tyrrell/P34/P34.htm.
March also made some experiments with a 6 wheel car in 1977.
The 2-4-0 (from rail locomotive terminology) sought increased
traction by having a second set of rear wheels behind the first.
Design and construction were very informal, development nonexistent
(most running was done with only one set of rear wheels driven to
avoid cracking the inadequate gearbox casing), and the car never
competed; a successor machine did win several British hillclimbs
in 1979 with Roy Lane at the wheel. Photo at
http://www.geocities.com/simontmallett/240march1.html.
Williams produced a 6-wheel variant of their FW08 in 1982, of
similar layout to the March. The idea this time was to extend the
area under the car available to venturi tunnels and to allow the
rear wing to be mounted further back on the car. Cars were
built and tested, but right about the time that they were ready
to race the FIA came out with new regulations restricting F1 cars
to 4 wheels mounted on 2 axles, so it never raced for the FIA World
Championship. The cars still exist and have appeared in several
historic races. Photo at
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/images/large/689-1.jpg.
Q: Is it true about a "fan car"?
A: The Brabham BT46B, which Niki Lauda drove to victory in the
1978 Swedish GP.
This was an idea borrowed from Jim Hall's Chaparral CanAm cars.
The idea was to put skirts on the sidepods to seal the undercar area,
then to mount an extractor fan at the back to remove
the air under the car, thus sucking it down onto the track.
To get around the "moveable areodynamic device" ban, Brabham
claimed that the fan was there to help cool the engine.
Whilst this wasn't false, it wasn't the full reason behind the
fan; the car actually squatted down onto the track if you
blipped the throttle while it was stationary.
But its biggest problem was that it was very successful, so
all the other teams protested. There was also one legitimate
(IMO) concern--the fan tended to pick up debris from the track
and blow it into the face of a driver following closely. In
any event, the car was very soon banned by the FIA because the
fan was ruled to be an aerodynamic aid not in a fixed position
relative to the sprung part of the car.
Q: Why were Tyrrell thrown out of the 1984 championship?
A: This is from Autocourse:
"In the afterglow of 1984's chase-the-McLaren story, the
FISA-versus-Tyrrell affair still rankles as being as distasteful as it
was ill-considered. Whether or not Tyrrell was plying his 012 cars
with lead ballast during a late-race pit stop or - and this is more
far-fetched - mixing additive to the water injected into the engine to
ward off piston and valvegear failures has become a moot case. What is
more relevant is not only the way that FISA conducted his trial - for
example, introducing fresh evidence at an appeal hearing and barring
Tyrrell from approaching expert witnesses who had analysed water
samples for FISA - but also the severity of the fine. If Andrea de
Cesaris and Niki Lauda have their practice times discounted on the
days at Dijon and Dallas where the Ligier was found to be running with
an empty fire extinguisher bottle and the McLaren declared to have a
rear wing 2mm too wide, then excluding Tyrrell from the World
Championship for infringements committed during Martin Brundle's gutsy
drive to second in Detroit ranks as a kneejerk reaction of an
inappropriate magnitude.
But the decision was final, costing Tyrrell his FOCA membership and
USD 1,000,000 in concessionary travel arrangements to transcontinental
races. Underlying the season had been the backstage arguments over the
proposed 195-litre fuel capacity maximum intended for 1985: to stick
at the current 220-litre allowance required team unanimity - and Ken
Tyrrell was the only dissenting voice. Naturally, after he was barred
from the Championship, so 220 litres became a fixed part of the '85
technical regulations, neatly, tidily and with no outward fuss."
Q: Who won the constructors championship in the year....?
A:
2004 Ferrari (I)
2003 Ferrari (I)
2002 Ferrari (I)
2001 Ferrari (I)
2000 Ferrari (I)
1999 Ferrari (I)
1998 McLaren (GB)
1997 Williams (GB)
1996 Williams (GB)
1995 Benetton (GB)
1994 Williams (GB)
1993 Williams (GB)
1992 Williams (GB)
1991 McLaren (GB)
1990 McLaren (GB)
1989 McLaren (GB)
1988 McLaren (GB)
1987 Williams (GB)
1986 Williams (GB)
1985 McLaren (GB)
1984 McLaren (GB)
1983 Ferrari (I)
1982 Ferrari (I)
1981 Williams (GB)
1980 Williams (GB)
1979 Ferrari (I)
1978 Lotus (GB)
1977 Ferrari (I)
1976 Ferrari (I)
1975 Ferrari (I)
1974 McLaren (GB)
1973 Lotus (GB)
1972 Lotus (GB)
1971 Tyrrell (GB)
1970 Lotus (GB)
1969 Matra (F)
1968 Lotus (GB)
1967 Brabham (GB)
1966 Brabham (GB)
1965 Lotus (GB)
1964 Ferrari (I)
1963 Lotus (GB)
1962 BRM (GB)
1961 Ferrari (I)
1960 Cooper (GB)
1959 Cooper (GB)
1958 Vanwall (GB)
(The Constructors Championship originated in 1958.)
--
Mark Jackson - http://www.alumni.caltech.edu/~mjackson
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| San Luis track Marcus streets 01:09:31 |
| | Saw the coverage of the GT race at the new San Luis track in Argentina.
With a spectacular setting in the mountains the track loops round a
volcanic lake. It is 6km long, making it the second longest on the GT
tour to Spa. like Spa it has natural elevation changes and a mix of
sweeping and technical curves.
I think this new track could become on of the iconic tracks of the world
- totally unlike so many of the modern mickey mouse tracks.
Which I suppose means F1 will never go their.
Marcus
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$Revision: 2.70 $, $Date: 2005/03/01 13:08:08 $
The FAQ is divided into several sections.
Introduction (Part 1)
1. Rules, regulations and governing body (Part 1)
2. The teams and cars (Part 1)
3. The drivers (Part 2)
4. The races (Part 2)
5. The circuits (Part 2)
6. Television (Part 2)
7. Sponsors (Part 2)
8. Manufacturers (Part 2)
9. Technical stuff (Part 2)
10. Miscellaneous (Part 2)
Corrections and additions to mjackson@alumni.caltech.edu.
3. The drivers
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Q. Who will be driving for whom in 2005?
A.
Scuderia Ferrari Marlboro
1. Michael Schumacher (D)
2. Rubens Barrichello (BR)
T. Luca Badoer (I)
T. Marc Gené (E)
Lucky Strike BAR Honda
3. Jenson Button (GB)
4. Takuma Sato (J)
T. Anthony Davidson (GB)
T. Enrique Bernoldi (BR)
Mild Seven Renault F1 Team
5. Fernando Alonso (E)
6. Giancarlo Fisichella (I)
T. Franck Montagny (F)
BMW WilliamsF1 Team
7. Mark Webber (AUS)
8. Nick Heidfeld (D)
T. Antonio Pizzonia (BR)
West McLaren Mercedes
9. Kimi Räikkönen (SF)
10. Juan Pablo Montoya (CO)
T. Alex Wurz (A)
T. Pedro de la Rosa (E)
Sauber Petronas
11. Jacques Villeneuve (CDN)
12. Felipe Massa (BR)
T. TBA
Red Bull Racing
14. David Coulthard (GB)
15. Christian Klien (A)
T. Vitantonio Liuzzi (I)
Panasonic Toyota Racing
16. Jarno Trulli
17. Ralf Schumacher (D)
T. Ricardo Zonta (BR)
T. Olivier Panis (F)
Jordan Grand Prix
18. Tiago Monteiro (P)
19. Narain Karthikeyan (IND)
T. Robert Doornbos (NL)
T. Nicky Pastorelli (NL)
Minardi Cosworth
20. Christijan Albers (NL)
21. Patrick Friesacher (A)
T. TBA
T. Chanoch Nissany (IL)
T = Test Driver
Q: How much does driver x make?
A: According to /F1 Magazine/, March 2002, these were the current
salaries (and career earnings) in millions of US$, not including
endorsement or other side deals:
M Schumacher $32 ($197)
J Villeneuve $21 ($69)
E Irvine $12 ($52)
R Schumacher $12 ($32)
H-H Frentzen $8 * ($31)
D Coulthard $8 ($18)
K Raikkonen $8 ($8)
J Trulli $6 ($16)
R Barrichello $5.5 ($28)
G Fisichella $5 ($27)
J Button $4.5 ($9)
M Salo $3.5 ($8)
JP Montoya $3.5 ($6)
O Panis $3 ($12)
N Heidfeld $1.5 ($4)
P de la Rosa $1.5 ($2)
A McNish $1.5 ($2)
T Sato $1 ($1)
F Massa $0.5 ($1)
E Bernoldi nil (nil)
M Webber nil (nil)
A Yoong nil (nil)
*Frentzen's $8m was to be paid partly by Arrows and partly by Jordan.
Q: Who won the drivers championship in the year ....?
A:
2004 Michael Schumacher (D)
2003 Michael Schumacher (D)
2002 Michael Schumacher (D)
2001 Michael Schumacher (D)
2000 Michael Schumacher (D)
1999 Mika Häkkinen (SF)
1998 Mika Häkkinen (SF)
1997 Jacques Villeneuve (CDN)
1996 Damon Hill (GB)
1995 Michael Schumacher (D)
1994 Michael Schumacher (D)
1993 Alain Prost (F)
1992 Nigel Mansell (GB)
1991 Ayrton Senna (BR)
1990 Ayrton Senna (BR)
1989 Alain Prost (F)
1988 Ayrton Senna (BR)
1987 Nelson Piquet (BR)
1986 Alain Prost (F)
1985 Alain Prost (F)
1984 Niki Lauda (A)
1983 Nelson Piquet (BR)
1982 Keke Rosberg (SF)
1981 Nelson Piquet (BR)
1980 Alan Jones (AUS)
1979 Jody Scheckter (ZA)
1978 Mario Andretti (USA)
1977 Niki Lauda (A)
1976 James Hunt (GB)
1975 Niki Lauda (A)
1974 Emerson Fittipaldi (BR)
1973 Jackie Stewart (GB)
1972 Emerson Fittipaldi BR
1971 Jackie Stewart (GB)
1970 Jochen Rindt (A)
1969 Jackie Stewart (GB)
1968 Graham Hill (GB)
1967 Denny Hulme (NZ)
1966 Jack Brabham (AUS)
1965 Jim Clark (GB)
1964 John Surtees (GB)
1963 Jim Clark (GB)
1962 Graham Hill (GB)
1961 Phil Hill (USA)
1960 Jack Brabham (AUS)
1959 Jack Brabham (AUS)
1958 Mike Hawthorn (GB)
1957 Juan Manuel Fangio (RA)
1956 Juan Manuel Fangio (RA)
1955 Juan Manuel Fangio (RA)
1954 Juan Manuel Fangio (RA)
1953 Alberto Ascari (I)
1952 Alberto Ascari (I)
1951 Juan Manuel Fangio (RA)
1950 Giuseppe Farina (I)
Q: How many races has y won?
A: See the next answer.
4. The races
============
Q: Who won x race? Who raced car y in z?
A: The best source for this is Forix at http://www.forix.com - it has
comprehensive results for championship and non-championship races
extending back before 1950. Unfortunately in early 2003 they converted
to a subscription service. Free sources of some of this information
are out there, including http://www.grandprix.com/gpemain.html and
http://www.f1db.com; other recommendations are welcome.
Q: What is the calendar for 2005?
A. As adopted by the World Motor Sport Council on 10 December 2004:
06 Mar Australia (Melbourne)
20 Mar Malaysia (Sepang)
03 Apr Bahrain (Sakhir)
24 Apr San Marino (Imola)
08 May Spain (Barcelona)
22 May Monaco (Monaco)
29 May Europe (Nürburgring)
12 Jun Canada (Montréal)
19 Jun USA (Indianapolis)
03 Jul France (Magny-Cours)
10 Jul Great Britain (Silverstone)
24 Jul Germany (Hockenheim)
31 Jul Hungary (Budapest)
21 Aug Turkey (Istanbul)
04 Sep Italy (Monza)
11 Sep Belgium (Spa-Francorchamps)
25 Sep Brazil (São Paulo)
09 Oct Japan (Suzuka)
16 Oct China (Shanghai)
Q: Why does the Monaco Grand Prix move around in the calendar?
A: The Thursday of the Monaco meeting has traditionally been Ascension
Day, therefore moving with Easter. The 2005 calendar, however,
breaks this pattern (as in 1957 and 2002).
Q: What time is qualifying and the race?
A: According to a February notice from the FIA (all times local):
one hour of free practice at 11 AM and 2 PM on Friday (third cars
run for teams permitted to do so); 45 minutes of free practice at
9 and 10:15 AM on Saturday; first qualifying at 1 PM on Saturday;
second qualifying 4 hours before the race on Sunday. Most races
will start at 2 PM except Malaysia (3:00), Bahrain (2:30), Canada
(1:00), USA (1:00), GB (1:00), Turkey(3:00), and Japan (2:30).
And remember that at Monaco the "Friday" program takes place on
Thursday. permitting the streets to be reopened on Friday for
normal (i.e. expensive) commerce.
Q: Where can I get lap charts for races on the web?
A: Accurate, complete lap charts have been hard to come by, although
graphical depictions of running order lap-by-lap are fairly common
(e.g. through www.fia.com).
5. The circuits
===============
Q: What circuits are rumoured to be getting races?
A: New events 2004 were Bahrain (Sakhir) and China (Shanghai); Turkey
(Istanbul) is on the calendar for 2005. Last October officials
in Mexico announced a 5-year contract for GPs to be held at a
new track near Cancun beginning in 2006, although legal and
environmental complications have since thrown this into doubt.
More speculatively, Bernie Ecclestone has stated his belief
that a South African GP will be held near Cape Town by 2009 and
an Indian GP "probably" in Mumbai within three years,
and negotiations are claimed to be well-advanced for a race in
South Korea (Chinhae). Rumors have also mentioned Russia (St.
Petersburg or Moscow), Egypt, and Libya. There has also been talk
of a street course in London as early as 2007, should that city's
bid for the 2012 Olympics fail. A street race in New York City or
a return to Long Beach have also been mooted about as sites for a
second USGP; Rio de Janeiro is reportedly preparing a bid to get the
GP of Brazil back from São Paulo. Toyota is upgrading facilities
at Fuji International to challenge Honda-owned Suzuka for the Japanese
GP starting in 2007. And a bid has surfaced to run a GP in Toronto,
possibly alternating with the existing event in Montréal.
Clearly a Grand Prix is widely viewed as a very desirable property!
The Concorde Agreement sets a maximum of 17 GPs per year, which would
require some existing venues to go away to make room. On the other
hand the 2004 calendar had 18 races, the 2005 calendar has 19, and
Bernie has talked of reducing private testing to accomodate up to 20
events. And while the move of the European Union to bring forward
a tobacco ad ban from the agreed-on late 2006 to mid-2005 has the
FIA talking openly about leaving Europe entirely long-term contracts
with current tracks continue to be signed.
Q: Where can I find maps of the circuits used in F1 racing?
A: A good source of current and historical information is at
http://www.racingcircuits.net; select "FIA Formula 1 World
Championship" under "Circuits by Series," then the year of interest
in the rightmost frame, then the specific circuit.
Changes in 2004 included revisions to the Melbourne pit lane entry,
tightening of Barcelona's La Caixá curve to create an overtaking
opportunity, a new pit lane for Monaco, and a tighter entry to
the Bus Stop chicane at Spa. In 2005 Barcelona will be entirely
resurfaced and the Elf and Seat corners reprofiled.
6. Television
=============
Q: I've heard about digital or pay-per-view F1. How does that work?
A: From a commercial point of view, not well enough. Bernie Ecclestone's
Formula One Management, which had sent crew and equipment to each GP
to provide seven channels of custom programming to pay-per-view
subscribers in several European countries, pulled the plug after
2002 due to lower than expected subscriptions. It was then promised that
the digital resouces would be focussed "on providing the best live
feed to our free-to-air broadcasters." This apparently proved unworkable,
and the operation was mostly mothballed. Most broadcasts are still
produced by a local TV operation - but some are contracted out to FOM,
and it is rumored that this involvement will increase in 2005.
Q: How come the television viewing figures for F1 are bigger than the world
population?
A: It is a figure used for comparison by the advertising industry and has no
value as an absolute. That's the way the Olympic Games is counted and it's
the way the Football World Cup is counted, so it's the way F1 is counted.
For example the claimed viewership for 1999 was
57,754,361,716. This starts to make more sense when you realise that
every "viewing" counts. If you watch the race, and the repeat/highlights,
that's 2 for a start. Then remember it's 16 times a year (17 this
year...), so that's 34. Do you watch the qualifying? Add another 17... Did
you see any clips on the news? Several? Add another 60 or so. OK, so
you alone viewed F1 probably 100 times last year...
Significant erosion of F1 viewing figures was noted in most countries over
the course of the 2002 season. In addition to sparking a host of rules
change proposals to make racing more competitive, this may have played a
role in the death of digital pay-per-view in favor of improved free-to-air
coverage for 2003.
Q: I'm visiting the United States. Is there TV coverage of F1 events there?
A: In 2005 CBS (major broadcast network) will carry San Marino, Spain,
Europe, and Canada; coverage details not yet available. The remaining
events will be carried on the Speed Channel (http://www.speedtv.com),
a cable and satellite service that is widely, but not universally,
available. Expect live coverage of all these races; Friday practice
and Saturday qualifying should also be covered, but not necessarily
live. Extra coverage is usually laid on for the US Grand Prix.
7. Sponsors
===========
Q: When did the CSI (Commission Sportive Internationale, forerunner of FISA)
allow outside sponsorship for F1 cars?
A: For the 1968 season.
Q: Which team first had a sponsor, the first race with sponsor, and the
sponsor's name?
A: At the 1968 Spanish GP, Lotus appeared in the red and gold livery of Gold
Leaf Cigarettes. If privateers are included then one must credit
John Love and Sam Tingle, whose "Team Gunston" Brabham-Repco and
LDS-Repco ran in the colors of that cigarette brand at the season-
opening South African event.
Q: What team brought Marlboro into F1 and when?
A: Marlboro came into F1 as teams sponsor in 1972 with the BRM team.
They 'eased' their way in with a low-key personal contract for Jo Siffert in
1970. Seppi carried logos on helmet and overalls for two seasons, as did his
STP March in '70 and his Yardley BRM in '71. This may well have been the
genesis of Marlboro's 'World Championship Team' concept, the umbrella
name for individual driver sponsorships which were additional to team
contracts.
Q: What is the longest running team/sponsor conection (current and all-time)?
A: Currently, the Marlboro/Ferrari partnership is in its 22nd season (sponsor
since 1984, title sponsor since 1997). The longest all-time is 23 seasons
for Marlboro and McLaren (1974-1996).
Q: Who will be the primary sponsors for each F1 team in 2005?
A:
BAR: Lucky Strike (cigarettes)
Ferrari: Marlboro (cigarettes)
Jordan: TBA
McLaren: West (cigarettes) until Turkey
Johnnie Walker (liquor) thereafter
Minardi: TBA
Red Bull: Red Bull (energy drink)
Renault: Mild Seven (cigarettes)
Sauber: Petronas (oil)
Williams: BMW, Hewlett-Packard (electronics)
Toyota: Panasonic (electronics)
Note that European Union antitobacco regulations slated for
mid-2005 may cause some further movement away from cigarette
sponsorship this year.
Q: How much do the top sponsors actually spend?
A: The top 20, according to /F1 Magazine/, March 2002 (in millions of US$):
Honda $210m (110 to BAR, 100 to Jordan)
Renault $170
Toyota $140
Daimler/Chrysler $125
FMC $125
BMW $115
BAT $88
P.Morris $87
Fiat/Agnelli $85
Exxon Mobil $58 (shared by Toyota & McLaren)
Reemsta (West) $50
Vodafone $41
Petronas $38
Compaq [now HP] $36
DHL/Deutsche Post $36
Asiatech $35
Panasonic $31
Mild Seven $30
Shell $29
Elf $27
8. Manufacturers
================
Q: Had Jaguar ever been in F1 before buying Stewart?
A: Clemente Biondetti drove a Jaguar-engined Ferrari 166 in the 1950
Italian GP. He qualified it 32 seconds (27%) behind Fangio, and retired from
the race on lap 17 with a blown engine.
When Moss, Dean Delamont and John "Autocar, not Cooper" Cooper were
casting about for bits for a new F2 car for him (the project that eventually
became the first of the two Cooper-Altas) there was apparently an attempt to
secure an experimental 2.0l 4-cyl Jaguar engine for that.
Paul Emery fitted a 2.4 Jag engine with fuel injection to his Emeryson
special, and did one F1 clubbie in '57. (The car had started life with a
linered-down Aston Martin engine for 2.0l F2, then acquired a bored-out
Alta for 2.5l F1...)
Q: Who owns Ilmor?
A: It's now Mercedes-Ilmor; DaimlerChrysler raised its stake to 55% in
September 2002. The remainder is split evenly among Mario Illien,
Paul Morgan's widow Liz, and Roger Penske, although there is also
an agreement under which DaimlerChrysler will progressively buy them
out by the end of 2005. (In December 2004 Mercedes' holdings were
at 85%)
Q: Who owns Cosworth?
A: Kevin Kalkhoven and Gerald Forsythe, co-owners of the US-based
Champ Car series.
9. Technical Stuff
==================
Q: What is a desmodromic valve?
A: Conventional poppet valves are opened by the direct or indirect
mechanical action of a cam and are closed by the action of a spring,
the latter being a coil or hairpin of metal or (in some recent
F1 engines) a chamber of compressed gas. Desmodromic valves are
both opened and closed by mechanical action, for example by an
additional cam lobe on the camshaft acting through fingers or
other structures.
Although desmodromic valves were used in Grand Prix racing as
early as 1914 and sporadically thereafter, significant success
was not achieved before the Mercedes Benz W196 of 1954-55.
Q: What is the fuel made of?
A: Essentially the fuel must be made from the same
components as pump fuels and with limits on the proportions of
individual components which are currently more stringent than those
applied to pump fuels in Europe.
Within those strict parameters, the fuel companies can - and do -
tailor the fuels to specific engines, engine maps and circuit
configurations. There is constant research and as many as three or
four different blends may used throughout a season, in line with
engine developments and circuit requirements.
A sample of each new batch of fuel is sent to the FIA to be tested to
ensure that it complies with the rules and is then 'fingerprinted'.
Samples are taken at the circuits to ensure that the fuel being used
in the cars matches this 'fingerprint'.
10. Miscellaneous
=================
Q: What colour is British Racing Green?
A: There isn't just one colour. See David Betts' photos at
http://dbetts.motorsport.org.uk/brg for many examples (free registration
required).
Q: What are the national racing colours?
A: Country; car colour; number colour:
Egypt; light-lilac; red on white
Argentina; car:blue/bonnet: black; red on white
Belgium; yellow; black
Brazil; light-yellow/green; black
Bulgaria; car: green/bonnet: white; red on white
Chile; car: red/bonnet: blue/rear end: white; half blue and half red
on white or entirely red
Germany; white (yes, white was indeed Germany's official colour); red
Finland; black; blue on white
France; blue; white
Great Britain; green; white
Ireland; green (horizontal orange stripe); white
Italy; red; white
Luxemburg; grey; white on red
Monaco; white (horizontal red stripe); black on white
Netherlands; orange; white
Poland; white/rear end: white; red
Romania; navy blue/rear end: red; yellow
Sweden; lower part: blue/upper part: yellow/3 yellow stripes on the
bonnet; white
Switzerland; car: red/bonnet: white; black
Spain; car: red/bonnet: yellow; black on yellow/white on red
Thailand; car: light-blue/wheels: light-yellow/horizontal yellow
stripe; white on blue
Czechoslovakia; car: white/bonnet: blue and white/rear end: red; blue
Hungary; car: white/bonnet: red/ rear end: green; black
USA; car: white/rear end: blue; blue on white
Q: What about drug testing in F1?
A: From an FIA statement on 1/10/99 "For several years, the FIA and the FIM
have strictly applied the regulations of the International Olympic
Committee, with numerous and repeated controls. Both federations are
fully prepared to intensify checks should the need arise."
Q: What are those strips sticking out of the ground in the pit lane?
A: They are there to ground the static electricity that builds up in the
car during a race, and try and prevent a pit lane fire.
Q: Who is Nazir Hoosein?
A: Nazir Hoosein is the steward (from India. The (in)famous movie
theater owner from Mumbai) who was the president of the (3) stewards
in Brazil 98, and so he was the one behind the decision to disallow
McLaren braking system.
Nazir Hoosein was also the president of the stewards in Brazil '97,
when the drivers had problems with a white line on the pit entry
(they were told at first to not cross it, but they managed to convince
the stewards that it was more dangerous to avoid it). You might have
noticed that the pit entry since 98 was much longer and the reason is
probably to avoid that "problem", which seemed to exist only on
Hoosein's head.
After the administrative mistake at the British GP in 98, he
voluntarilty gave up his Steward licence. He has since had it
given back. He resurfaced as Chief Steward at the 2002 Malaysian
GP, where Juan Pablo Montoya was given a controversial "drive-through"
penalty, and was also one of the Stewards at the 2003 German GP,
where Ralf Schumacher was penalized for causing a first-corner
accident. Most lately, the Motorsports Association of India (which he
heads) turned up in January 2004 to support Mumbai's bid to host a
prospective Indian GP, in opposition to a group from Hyderabad which
had been negotiating with Bernie Ecclestone.
Q: What was the music the BBC used for the Grand Prix?
A: "The Chain", by Fleetwood Mac, on the album "Rumo(u)rs"
Q: Are there any novels based on Formula 1?
A: Alistair Maclean's "The Way to Dusty Death" is one of the better
known ones.
Bob Judd wrote a series of "throbbing groin and motor racing" novels
called "Formula 1", "Phoenix", "Indy", "Monza", "Silverstone" and "Juice"
in the UK, but they have slightly different names in the US (Silverstone
is known as Spin in the states, and "Phoenix" as "Burn" for example).
Sally Armstrong wrote a novel called "Racers" which it claims was
researched with help of Williams Grand Prix Engineering. It is very
much a throbbing groins novel, and does beg the question exactly
what was going on at Williams in the early 90s...
Another few are "Eye of the Cobra" by Christopher Sherlock and
"White Death" by Andrew Neilsen, "The Last Open Road" by
B.S. Levy, and "Oversteer" & "Dead Pedal" by Ken Vose, plus
"Fine Tune" by Gerald Hammond.
Douglas Rutherford wrote a whole series of books in the 1950s,
including "Grand Prix Murder", "The Gilt-Edged Cockpit" and
"The Chequered Flag".
S. Thomas' "Miracle at Monaco" is a vanity press product, but worth
mention for the sheer weirdness of the concept: a 50-year-old
monk races a one-off Morgan F1 car at Monaco with the help of God.
Q: What is a "Jordan Stopwatch" and a "Ferrari Ruler"?
A: The first of these terms refers to the old practice of Jordan
having stunning testing times, only to falter during the season.
It is sometimes used as a ruse to increase sponsorship in a team,
as a fast car is easier to sell to corporate bods.
A Ferrari Ruler, on the other hand, is the idea that if you measure
something in a specific way then it is legal. It comes about from the
1999 Malaysian Grand Prix, where if you measured the bargeboards in a
specific way, then they were legal.
Q: What is "Remus?"
A: Remus is an ERA (English Racing Automobiles) - specifically, ERA R6B.
One of the three raced by Prince Bira before the war, the others being
Romulus and Hanuman.
Raced as a GP car post-war, being driven by John Bolster amongst
others. It was then owned and raced by Bill Moss for many years in UK
club motorsport and then historic events before passing to Patrick
Lindsay and, after his death, his son Ludovic.
Probably the most raced car ever.
For more information, see
http://www.brooklandstrack.co.uk/Carslist/biraera.htm
--
Mark Jackson - http://www.alumni.caltech.edu/~mjackson
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| | As rumored a few days ago, Slavica Ecclestone has confirmed she's
leaving Bernie. Given that as part of what /The Economist/ once called
a "complex tax-avoidance scheme" Bernie's F1 holdings are primarily in
her name, the fallout could be interesting. (Yeah, he'll have himself
covered legally, but even winning a court fight might be unacceptably
damaging.)
--
Mark Jackson - http://www.alumni.caltech.edu/~mjackson
I do not believe in conspiracy theories, though
I do know that there is a secret international
organization that invents them. - Mike Lawrence
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2. The teams and cars
=====================
Q: When was the last time a privateer won a race?
A: The last privateer to win a GP was either Jo Siffert in the Walker
Lotus-Ford at Brands Hatch in 1968, or Jackie Stewart in the Tyrrell
March-Ford in Spain in 1970. (Although Tyrrell bought both chassis
and engine that season some feel that the support he was receiving from
Ford, Elf, and Goodyear place him at least among the semi-works ranks.
It's a judgement call, there being no official body empowered to bless
privateership.)
There has never been a privateer World Champion. Moss came closest in
the Rob Walker-entered Cooper in 1959 when he finished third. Walker
was the first privateer entrant to win a World Championship Grand Prix
with Moss in a Cooper-Climax, in the 1958 Argentine Grand Prix.
The Mugen-Honda engine used by the 2000 Jordan was a factory engine
in all-but-name. The last World Champion to use an off-the-shelf
engine was Keke Rosberg (1982, Williams-Ford).
Q: Who owns which team?
A: BMW Sauber - The former Sauber was restructured, if not
fully renamed, in 2006 as the factory team for
BMW, which holds the controlling stake.
Ferrari - Piero Lardi Ferrari 10%, the FIAT Group 85%, and 5%
by the government-owned Mubadala Development Co. of
Abu Dhabi.
Honda - Honda.
McLaren - TAG McLaren is 40% owned by Daimler A. G., 30% by
the Bahrain Mumtalakat Holding Company, and 15% each
by Ron Dennis and TAG Group S.A. (Mansouer Ojjeh).
Red Bull - (formerly Jaguar, neÈ Stewart) Dietrich Mateschitz's
Red Bull energy drink company.
Renault - Renault.
Scuderia Toro Rosso (formerly Minardi)
- Dietrich Mateschitz's Red Bull energy drink company
50%; Gerhard Berger 50%. A new owner for the former's
stake is being sought before 2010.
Force India - (recently Spyker, formerly MF1 Racing, neÈ Jordan)
Orange India Holdings, itself equally owned by
Strongwind (an investment company controlled by
Michiel Mol) and Watson Ltd. (owned by Indian
businessman Vijay Mallya).
Toyota - Toyota.
Williams - Frank Williams and Patrick Head (said to be 80/20).
Heavy sponsorship involvement by the Baugur Group
has sparked rumors that they have taken an ownership
position as well, but this has not been confirmed.
The Super Aguri team, which folded early in the 2008 season, was
owned by Aguri Suzuki and Fumio Akita but largely dependent on
financial support from Honda. When a planned sale to the Magma
Group, a London-based automotive consultancy, fell through at
the last minute alternative funding could not be found.
Q: Who supplied engines to which team in 2008?
A: BMW Sauber - BMW [F]
Ferrari - Ferrari [F]
Honda - Honda [F]
McLaren - Mercedes [F]
Red Bull - Renault [C]
Renault - Renault [F]
STR - Ferrari [C]
Super Aguri - Honda [C]
Force India - Ferrari [C]
Toyota - Toyota [F]
Williams - Toyota [F]
[F] Factory [C] Customer
The only change for 2009 (aside from the absence of Super Aguri
seems to be the use of a Mercedes powertrain (including gearbox
and KERS) by Force India.
Q: What happened to Prodrive?
A: Anticipating the expiration of the Concorde Agreement (see above),
which restricted participation in F1 to true constructors, the
FIA abruptly opened entries for 2008 for the week of 24 to 31
March, 2006. Twenty-two applications were received; the official
entry list, announced by the FIA on April 28, consisted of the
then-current 11 teams plus Prodrive (Dave Richards, former BAR and
Benetton principal). The Prodrive entry, however, was predicated
on the legality of "customer" cars - they negotiated with McLaren
and others for a 2008 supply - and the ongoing legal questions over
the 2007 Toro Rosso and Super Aguri entries, and the failure to
agree on a new Concorde agreement permitting this for 2008,
caused Richards to announce that Prodrive would not compete as
scheduled.
Q: What teams will be competing in 2009?
A: Entries were open only during July 2008; the list hasn't been
announced yet, but there's no indication it will include other
than the current 10.
Q. How much does each team spend per year?
A. Estimates are all that are available, and of course they vary. The
March 2006 issue of /F1 Racing/ gave the following breakdown for
2005 (all figures in millions of US dollars):
R&D WT Man. Eng. T&A Tests Races T-Sal D-Sal C.E. Total
===============================================================================
Ferrari 26.60 15.55 1.80 150 19.46 75.75 37.28 51.04 46.50 9.00 432.98
Toyota 63.40 13.14 2.80 180 12.97 77.50 29.71 68.53 39.50 11.50 499.05
McLaren 45.66 15.93 1.99 140 14.05 65.86 25.33 62.23 40.00 8.50 419.95
Williams 22.50 14.91 1.65 137 10.05 74.50 27.46 57.05 5.00 10.00 360.12
BAR 33.40 11.62 1.37 170 8.53 54.00 23.24 40.70 10.25 7.05 360.16
Renault 18.09 9.06 1.92 115 8.10 44.00 25.09 41.08 18.25 6.50 287.81
Sauber 15.03 11.71 1.75 26 7.70 27.50 24.03 39.60 4.50 3.50 161.32
Red Bull 13.48 6.78 1.25 18 5.72 37.50 19.51 23.78 2.50 10.70 139.22
Jordan 12.20 5.10 0.80 15 4.86 26.50 21.34 16.50 0.50 1.40 104.20
Minardi 0.45 3.40 0.75 10 2.47 10.00 10.25 12.24 0.35 0.40 50.31
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250.81 107.20 16.08 961 93.91 493.11 243.24 413.47 167.35 68.55 2814.72
(WT = wind tunnel, Man = manufacturing, Eng = engines, T&A = travel and
accomodation, T-Sal = team salaries, D-Sal = drivers' salaries, C.E. =
corporate entertainment)
For comparison, /F1 Racing/'s team totals for 2004 and 2003:
Ferra Toyot McLar Willi B.A.R Renau Saube Jagua Jorda Minar
============================================================================
[2004Tot $2493] 418.2 368.5 359.2 359.0 309.9 255.2 154.6 141.9 79.92 46.58
[2003Tot $2141] 443.8 290.4 304.6 353.3 225.1 206.8 119.5 78.8 79.20 39.60
Q: Is it true that there was a 6-wheel F1 car that won a race?
A: The Tyrrell project 34 had small, 10 inch diameter front wheels
that could be completely hidden behind the front cowling then
in common use on F1 cars. This removed the front wheels from the
airstream and thus reduced drag significantly, resulting in the
car going faster. The problem was that the tiny front wheels
didn't provide enough surface area for proper braking. The way
around this was to use 4 front wheels instead of the usual 2.
The car was pretty successful in its first year and actually won
at Anderstorp (Swedish Grand Prix 1976) for Jody Scheckter, with
Depailler second. It was less successful in 1977 because the
more complicated 4-wheel front suspension assembly added a lot
of weight, and Goodyear wasn't keeping up on tire development of
the 10" tires. Tyrrell went back to a conventional, 4-wheel car
the next year. Pictures at http://www.ddavid.com/formula1/tyrp34.htm
and http://www.evil-photographer.com/cars/tyrrell/P34/P34.htm.
March also made some experiments with a 6 wheel car in 1977.
The 2-4-0 (from rail locomotive terminology) sought increased
traction by having a second set of rear wheels behind the first.
Design and construction were very informal, development nonexistent
(most running was done with only one set of rear wheels driven to
avoid cracking the inadequate gearbox casing), and the car never
competed; a successor machine did win several British hillclimbs
in 1979 with Roy Lane at the wheel. Photo at
http://www.geocities.com/simontmallett/240march1.html.
Williams produced a 6-wheel variant of their FW08 in 1982, of
similar layout to the March. The idea this time was to extend the
area under the car available to venturi tunnels and to allow the
rear wing to be mounted further back on the car. Cars were
built and tested, but right about the time that they were ready
to race the FIA came out with new regulations restricting F1 cars
to 4 wheels mounted on 2 axles, so it never raced for the FIA World
Championship. The cars still exist and have appeared in several
historic races. Photo at
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/images/large/689-1.jpg.
Q: Is it true about a "fan car"?
A: The Brabham BT46B, which Niki Lauda drove to victory in the
1978 Swedish GP.
This was an idea borrowed from Jim Hall's Chaparral CanAm cars.
The idea was to put skirts on the sidepods to seal the undercar area,
then to mount an extractor fan at the back to remove
the air under the car, thus sucking it down onto the track.
To get around the "moveable areodynamic device" ban, Brabham
claimed that the fan was there to help cool the engine.
Whilst this wasn't false, it wasn't the full reason behind the
fan; the car actually squatted down onto the track if you
blipped the throttle while it was stationary.
But its biggest problem was that it was very successful, so
all the other teams protested. There was also one legitimate
safety concern--the fan tended to pick up debris from the track
and blow it into the face of a driver following closely. In
any event, the car was very soon banned by the FIA because the
fan was ruled to be an aerodynamic aid not in a fixed position
relative to the sprung part of the car.
Q: Why were Tyrrell thrown out of the 1984 championship?
A: This is from Autocourse:
"In the afterglow of 1984's chase-the-McLaren story, the
FISA-versus-Tyrrell affair still rankles as being as distasteful as it
was ill-considered. Whether or not Tyrrell was plying his 012 cars
with lead ballast during a late-race pit stop or - and this is more
far-fetched - mixing additive to the water injected into the engine to
ward off piston and valvegear failures has become a moot case. What is
more relevant is not only the way that FISA conducted his trial - for
example, introducing fresh evidence at an appeal hearing and barring
Tyrrell from approaching expert witnesses who had analysed water
samples for FISA - but also the severity of the fine. If Andrea de
Cesaris and Niki Lauda have their practice times discounted on the
days at Dijon and Dallas where the Ligier was found to be running with
an empty fire extinguisher bottle and the McLaren declared to have a
rear wing 2mm too wide, then excluding Tyrrell from the World
Championship for infringements committed during Martin Brundle's gutsy
drive to second in Detroit ranks as a kneejerk reaction of an
inappropriate magnitude.
But the decision was final, costing Tyrrell his FOCA membership and
USD 1,000,000 in concessionary travel arrangements to transcontinental
races. Underlying the season had been the backstage arguments over the
proposed 195-litre fuel capacity maximum intended for 1985: to stick
at the current 220-litre allowance required team unanimity - and Ken
Tyrrell was the only dissenting voice. Naturally, after he was barred
from the Championship, so 220 litres became a fixed part of the '85
technical regulations, neatly, tidily and with no outward fuss."
Q: Who won the constructors championship in the year....?
A:
2008 Ferrari (I)
2007 Ferrari (I)
2006 Renault (F)
2005 Renault (F)
2004 Ferrari (I)
2003 Ferrari (I)
2002 Ferrari (I)
2001 Ferrari (I)
2000 Ferrari (I)
1999 Ferrari (I)
1998 McLaren (GB)
1997 Williams (GB)
1996 Williams (GB)
1995 Benetton (GB)
1994 Williams (GB)
1993 Williams (GB)
1992 Williams (GB)
1991 McLaren (GB)
1990 McLaren (GB)
1989 McLaren (GB)
1988 McLaren (GB)
1987 Williams (GB)
1986 Williams (GB)
1985 McLaren (GB)
1984 McLaren (GB)
1983 Ferrari (I)
1982 Ferrari (I)
1981 Williams (GB)
1980 Williams (GB)
1979 Ferrari (I)
1978 Lotus (GB)
1977 Ferrari (I)
1976 Ferrari (I)
1975 Ferrari (I)
1974 McLaren (GB)
1973 Lotus (GB)
1972 Lotus (GB)
1971 Tyrrell (GB)
1970 Lotus (GB)
1969 Matra (F)
1968 Lotus (GB)
1967 Brabham (GB)
1966 Brabham (GB)
1965 Lotus (GB)
1964 Ferrari (I)
1963 Lotus (GB)
1962 BRM (GB)
1961 Ferrari (I)
1960 Cooper (GB)
1959 Cooper (GB)
1958 Vanwall (GB)
(The Constructors Championship originated in 1958.)
--
Mark Jackson - http://www.alumni.caltech.edu/~mjackson
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Thursday, 6 November 2008
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| Driver Rankings - Interlagos Brian Lawrence 00:50:15 |
| | Driver Rankings after Interlagos 2008
=====================================
Numbers in brackets () in second column indicate table positions before
adding the most recent GP (IE the change in table position).
GPs - number of GPs counted for each driver (from the last 100)
[-1] [+1], etc. - number of GPs deleted/added to driver's record since
the last event
PP - number of Pole Positions (in the last 100)
W - number of Wins (in the last 100)
FL - number of Fastest Laps (in the last 100)
Points - these are 'my' points, allocated for many & various things, not
just wins, poles, f.laps, etc.
[Change] - the change in points after adding the most recent GP data
** - current drivers
The Last 100 GPs (~5.5 years)
=============================
First race (#1) - Monaco GP, 01 June 2003 (GP #704)
Last race (#100) - Brazilian GP, 02 November 2008 (GP #803)
Headlines
=========
Felipe Massa's home event 'hat-trick' pushes him above Fernando Alonso into
second place. Nico Rosberg stays at #15, but breaks through the 1,000
point barrier.
Driver GPs [Ch] PP W FL Points [Change]
==================================================================
1 Kimi RÄikkÆnen 99 16 16 33 4981.42 [-27.06] **
2 (3) Felipe Massa 88 [+1] 15 11 11 4957.85 [+279.36] **
3 (2) Fernando Alonso 99 16 21 11 4932.77 [-8.93] **
4 Lewis Hamilton 35 [+1] 13 9 3 3780.68 [+0.66] **
5 Michael Schumacher 65 [-1] 14 24 22 2598.43 [-87.55]
6 Nick Heidfeld 94 1 - 2 1939.10 [-8.58] **
7 Giancarlo Fisichella 98 2 2 1 1706.52 [-11.33] **
8 Rubens Barrichello 99 6 4 5 1663.57 [-23.29] **
9 Jenson Button 95 3 1 - 1582.14 [-11.84] **
10 Robert Kubica 39 [+1] 1 1 - 1530.51 [+5.98] **
11 Jarno Trulli 98 2 1 - 1515.96 [+25.22] **
12 Heikki Kovalainen 35 [+1] 1 1 2 1330.81 [+19.77] **
13 Mark Webber 99 - - - 1223.35 [+0.23] **
14 David Coulthard 99 - - - 1175.18 [-23.08] **
15 Nico Rosberg 53 [+1] - - 1 1008.73 [+11.29] **
16 Juan Pablo Montoya 51 [-1] 3 6 6 930.21 [-36.47]
17 Ralf Schumacher 73 [-1] 4 2 2 918.28 [-29.05]
18 (19) Sebastian Vettel 26 [+1] 1 1 - 784.02 [+43.02] **
19 (18) Takuma Sato 70 - - - 733.93 [-16.08]
20 Timo Glock 22 [+1] - - - 509.99 [+34.58] **
21 (22) Adrian Sutil 35 [+1] - - - 460.57 [+18.61] **
22 (21) Vitantonio Liuzzi 39 - - - 456.58 [-7.35]
23 (24) Kazuki Nakajima 19 [+1] - - - 430.71 [+19.43] **
24 (23) Christijan Albers 45 - - - 416.04 [-8.18]
25 Nelsinho Piquet 18 [+1] - - - 398.24 [-1.61] **
26 (29) SÈbastien Bourdais 18 [+1] - - - 355.41 [+20.56] **
27 (26) Tiago Monteiro 36 - - - 352.22 [-7.83]
28 (27) Christian Klien 46 - - - 340.66 [-9.39]
29 (28) Jacques Villeneuve 42 [-1] - - - 337.65 [-9.64]
30 Alexander Wurz 17 - - - 310.52 [-4.57]
31 Scott Speed 28 - - - 289.06 [-4.81]
32 Anthony Davidson 22 - - - 288.22 [-3.85]
33 Pedro de la Rosa 9 - - 1 188.20 [-3.42]
34 Sakon Yamamoto 14 - - - 157.32 [-2.17]
35 Narain Karthikeyan 19 - - - 146.29 [-3.83]
36 Robert Doornbos 11 - - - 113.97 [-2.28]
37 Olivier Panis 26 [-1] - - - 76.73 [-5.64]
38 Antonio Pizzonia 14 [-1] - - - 68.82 [-3.10]
39 Zsolt Baumgartner 20 - - - 67.47 [-3.59]
40 Patrick Friesacher 11 - - - 59.62 [-1.72]
41 Gianmaria Bruni 18 - - - 55.38 [-2.80]
42 (43) Franck Montagny 7 - - - 49.06 [-0.89]
43 (42) Cristiano da Matta 21 [-1] - - - 47.12 [-4.84]
44 Giorgio Pantano 14 - - - 35.73 [-2.07]
45 Yuji Ide 4 - - - 27.87 [-0.56]
46 Ricardo Zonta 5 - - - 23.21 [-0.91]
47 Marc GenÈ 3 - - - 13.18 [-0.91]
48 Heinz-H. Frentzen 10 - - - 11.66 [-1.79]
49 Jos Verstappen 10 [-1] - - - 10.44 [-1.87]
50 (52) Markus Winkelhock 1 - - - 9.56 [-0.13]
51 (50) Justin Wilson 10 [-1] - - - 9.27 [-1.84]
52 (51) Nicholas Kiesa 5 - - - 8.97 [-1.12]
53 Ralph Firman 8 [-1] - - - 6.68 [-1.57]
Fifty three drivers have driven in the last 100 GPs.
The last 156 weeks (3 years)
============================
First race (#1) - Bahrain GP, 12 March 2006 (GP #751)
Last race (#53) - Brazilian GP, 02 November 2008 (GP #803)
Headlines
=========
Fernando Alonso's second-place finish just moves him ahead of RÄikkÆnen
and Hamilton - Kimi just shades Hamilton too. Just over 11 points
separate those three. The number of races in this time increases by one.
Driver GPs PP W FL Points [Change]
==================================================================
1 Felipe Massa 52 [+1] 15 11 11 4701.58 [+288.15] **
2 (4) Fernando Alonso 53 [+1] 8 13 8 3791.86 [+30.28] **
3 Kimi RÄikkÆnen 53 [+1] 8 8 19 3788.73 [+15.24] **
4 (2) Lewis Hamilton 35 [+1] 13 9 3 3780.68 [+0.66] **
5 Nick Heidfeld 53 [+1] - - 2 1675.49 [+2.65] **
6 Robert Kubica 39 [+1] 1 1 - 1530.51 [+5.98] **
7 Michael Schumacher 18 4 7 7 1444.33 [-25.54]
8 Heikki Kovalainen 35 [+1] 1 1 2 1330.81 [+19.77] **
9 Giancarlo Fisichella 52 [+1] 1 1 - 1220.89 [+5.63] **
10 Jenson Button 53 [+1] 1 1 - 1088.83 [+8.56] **
11 Jarno Trulli 53 [+1] - - - 1078.06 [+44.82] **
12 Nico Rosberg 53 [+1] - - 1 1008.73 [+11.29] **
13 Rubens Barrichello 52 [+1] - - - 962.37 [+11.16] **
14 Mark Webber 53 [+1] - - - 923.03 [+12.59] **
15 David Coulthard 53 [+1] - - - 879.68 [-9.26] **
16 Sebastian Vettel 26 [+1] 1 1 - 784.02 [+43.02] **
17 Takuma Sato 38 - - - 518.20 [-7.61]
18 Ralf Schumacher 35 - - - 507.73 [-7.97]
19 Timo Glock 18 [+1] - - - 485.32 [+35.60] **
20 Adrian Sutil 35 [+1] - - - 460.57 [+18.61] **
22 Kazuki Nakajima 19 [+1] - - - 430.71 [+19.43] **
23 Nelsinho Piquet 18 [+1] - - - 398.24 [-1.61] **
24 SÈbastien Bourdais 18 [+1] - - - 355.41 [+20.56] **
Thirty eight drivers have driven in the last three years (156 weeks).
The last 104 weeks (2 years)
============================
First race (#1) - Australian GP, 18 March 2007 (GP #769)
Last race (#35) - Brazilian GP, 02 November 2008 (GP #803)
Headlines
=========
Massa overtakes Hamilton and moves into the number one position.
Driver GPs PP W FL Points [Change]
==================================================================
1 (2) Felipe Massa 34 12 9 9 3806.43 [+128.50] **
2 (1) Lewis Hamilton 35 [+1] 13 9 3 3780.68 [+0.66] **
3 Kimi RÄikkÆnen 35 5 8 16 3136.32 [-20.34] **
4 Fernando Alonso 35 2 6 3 2311.83 [+1.85] **
5 Robert Kubica 34 1 1 - 1428.72 [-8.19] **
6 Nick Heidfeld 35 - - 2 1390.81 [-6.92] **
7 Heikki Kovalainen 35 [+1] 1 1 2 1330.81 [+19.77] **
8 Nico Rosberg 35 - - - 838.28 [+12.66] **
9 Jarno Trulli 35 - - - 836.91 [+45.83] **
10 Sebastian Vettel 26 [+1] 1 1 - 784.02 [+43.02] **
11 Mark Webber 35 - - - 743.22 [+13.94] **
12 Rubens Barrichello 34 - - - 660.63 [-6.24] **
13 David Coulthard 35 - - - 637.97 [-8.80] **
14 Giancarlo Fisichella 34 - - - 615.10 [-9.63] **
15 Jenson Button 35 - - - 594.41 [-22.73] **
16 Timo Glock 18 [+1] - - - 485.32 [+35.60] **
17 Adrian Sutil 35 [+1] - - - 460.57 [+18.61] **
18 Kazuki Nakajima 19 [+1] - - - 430.71 [+19.43] **
19 Nelsinho Piquet 18 [+1] - - - 398.24 [-1.61] **
20 (21) SÈbastien Bourdais 18 [+1] - - - 355.41 [+20.56] **
Twenty nine drivers have driven in the last two years (104 weeks). Since
Shanghai four drivers have been removed from the 104-week table - Michael
Schumacher, Pedro de la Rosa, Robert Doornbos and Tiago Monteiro.
The last 52 weeks (1 year)
==========================
First race (#1) - Australian GP, 16 March 2008 (GP #786)
Last race (#18) - Brazilian GP, 02 November 2008 (GP #803)
Headlines
=========
Massa displaces Hamilton in the 52-week table too. Alonso moves ahead of
Heidfeld, Glock ahead of Webber, and Bourdais ahead of Coulthard.
Driver GPs PP W FL Points [Change]
==================================================================
1 (2) Felipe Massa 18 6 6 3 2221.39 [+155.60] **
2 (1) Lewis Hamilton 18 7 5 1 2052.11 [-26.73] **
3 Kimi RÄikkÆnen 18 2 2 10 1528.50 [-95.50] **
4 Robert Kubica 18 1 1 - 1019.95 [-24.55] **
5 Heikki Kovalainen 18 1 1 2 905.50 [+16.65] **
6 (7) Fernando Alonso 18 - 2 - 862.57 [+25.13] **
7 (6) Nick Heidfeld 18 - - 2 831.21 [-18.00] **
8 Sebastian Vettel 18 1 1 - 640.06 [+36.23] **
9 Jarno Trulli 18 - - - 551.45 [+28.63] **
10 Nico Rosberg 18 - - - 490.17 [-23.00] **
11 (12) Timo Glock 18 [+1] - - - 485.32 [+35.60] **
12 (11) Mark Webber 18 - - - 481.00 [+14.50] **
13 Kazuki Nakajima 18 - - - 411.08 [-0.20] **
14 Nelsinho Piquet 18 [+1] - - - 398.24 [-1.61] **
15 Rubens Barrichello 17 - - - 389.94 [+10.36] **
16 (17) SÈbastien Bourdais 18 [+1] - - - 355.41 [+20.56] **
17 (16) David Coulthard 18 - - - 353.15 [-21.04] **
18 Jenson Button 18 - - - 348.25 [+14.63] **
19 Giancarlo Fisichella 18 - - - 288.70 [+18.45] **
20 Adrian Sutil 18 - - - 244.50 [+11.17] **
Twenty two drivers have driven in the last year (52 weeks). Since Shanghai
three drivers have been removed from the 52-week table - Ralf Schumacher,
Sakon Yamamoto and Vitantonio Liuzzi.
Number of GP wins in each period
================================
Last 156 104 52
100 weeks weeks weeks
=========================================================
Michael Schumacher 24 [-1] 7 - -
Fernando Alonso 21 13 6 2
Kimi RÄikkÆnen 16 8 8 2 [-1]
Felipe Massa 11 [+1] 11 [+1] 9 6 [+1]
Lewis Hamilton 9 9 9 5
Juan Pablo Montoya 6 - - -
Rubens Barrichello 4 - - -
Giancarlo Fisichella 2 1 - -
Ralf Schumacher 2 - - -
Robert Kubica 1 1 1 1
Heikki Kovalainen 1 1 1 1
Sebastian Vettel 1 1 1 1
Jenson Button 1 1 - -
Jarno Trulli 1 - - -
---------------------------------------------------------
100 53 [+1] 35 18
All-time Top 60
===============
The addition of the 2008 Brazilian GP results only changes the career
averages for the six current drivers who are ranked in the all-time
top 60 (Alonso, RÄikkÆnen, Massa, Hamilton, Coulthard & Barrichello).
Lewis Hamilton completed his second season which means that his ranking
can be regraded by allowing him to upgrade from 50% to 75% of his full
average value per race. This catapults him up from 21st to 10th.
Alonso remains static in 12th, while RÄikkÆnen stays 15th with a
slightly reduced average. Massa sees a small increase in his average,
while Coulthard and Barrichello fall slightly - DC ending his careeer
with an average of 48.49 in 37th place.
Current drivers are indicated by a '*'. Their averages are volatile and
will fluctuate from race to race.
Drivers with a limited number of starts are indicated by '%1', '%2' or
'%3' showing those with 25%, 50% and 75% of their respective averages.
Laps Laps Total Race
GPs PP W FL Led Raced Points Avg. WDC
====================================================================
1. Juan Manuel Fangio 51 30 23 23 1348 3031 9707 190.33 5
2. Alberto Ascari 31 14 13 13 925 1650 5455 175.98 2
3. Jim Clark 72 33 25 28 1943 3923 10622 147.53 2
4. Michael Schumacher 246 67 91 76 4996 13788 31350 127.44 7
5. Ayrton Senna 158 63 41 20 2967 8054 18243 115.46 3
6. Stirling Moss 64 16 16 18 1181 3304 6666 104.15 0
7. Giuseppe Farina 33 5 5 5 338 1827 3427 103.83 1
8. Jackie Stewart 99 17 27 15 1921 5216 9875 99.75 3
9. Alain Prost 198 33 51 41 2680 10485 19547 98.72 4
10. Lewis Hamilton %3 * 35 13 9 3 615 2102 4282 91.76 1
11. Damon Hill 114 20 22 19 1358 5778 9747 85.50 1
12. Fernando Alonso * 121 17 21 11 1221 6769 9666 79.89 2
13. Froilan GonzÀlez %3 26 3 2 6 272 1273 2058 79.15 0
14. Nigel Mansell 185 32 31 29 2077 8705 13827 74.74 1
15. Kimi RÄikkÆnen * 138 16 17 35 1028 7036 10079 73.04 1
16. Mike Hawthorn 44 4 3 6 223 2341 3165 71.92 1
17. Mika HÄkkinen 160 25 20 25 1479 7656 11352 70.95 2
18. Juan Pablo Montoya 91 13 7 12 595 4726 6219 68.34 0
19. Niki Lauda 167 24 25 24 1592 8033 11167 66.87 3
20. Felipe Massa * 104 15 11 11 806 5797 6903 66.37 0
21. Nelson Piquet 202 24 23 23 1566 9773 12809 63.41 3
22. Jack Brabham 125 13 14 12 818 6109 7765 62.12 3
23. Phil Hill 48 6 3 6 171 2413 2958 61.62 1
24. James Hunt 92 14 10 8 634 3890 5385 58.53 1
25. Tony Brooks 38 3 6 3 133 1601 2216 58.30 0
26. Jochen Rindt 60 10 6 3 387 2516 3384 56.40 1
27. Jacky Ickx 115 13 8 14 529 5646 6174 53.69 0
28. Wolfgang von Trips 27 1 2 0 156 1341 1448 53.61 0
29. Jody Scheckter 111 3 10 5 675 6034 5778 52.06 1
30. Ronnie Peterson 123 14 10 9 704 5686 6282 51.08 0
31. Carlos Reutemann 144 6 12 6 645 6943 7322 50.84 0
32. Graham Hill 176 13 14 10 1102 8759 8888 50.50 2
33. Denny Hulme 112 1 8 9 435 6231 5642 50.38 1
34. Mario Andretti 127 18 12 10 798 5273 6318 49.75 1
35. Gilles Villeneuve 65 2 6 8 534 3186 3220 49.55 0
36. Alan Jones 116 6 12 13 589 5565 5672 48.90 1
37. David Coulthard * 245 12 13 18 897 12312 11880 48.49 0
38. Richie Ginther 52 0 1 3 116 2930 2518 48.42 0
39. John Surtees 111 8 6 11 308 4977 5262 47.41 1
40. Gerhard Berger 210 12 10 21 692 9783 9871 47.00 0
41. Emerson Fittipaldi 144 6 14 6 478 7285 6662 46.26 2
42. Clay Regazzoni 132 5 5 15 360 6596 6034 45.71 0
43. RenÈ Arnoux 149 18 7 12 506 6613 6757 45.35 0
44. Peter Revson 30 1 2 0 63 1565 1354 45.14 0
45. Jacques Villeneuve 161 12 11 9 627 8180 7211 44.79 1
46. Rubens Barrichello * 265 13 9 15 741 13461 11609 43.81 0
47. Dan Gurney 86 3 4 6 200 3673 3756 43.68 0
48. Peter Collins 32 0 3 0 127 1400 1372 42.87 0
49. Luigi Musso 24 0 1 1 6 1136 1000 41.68 0
50. Didier Pironi 69 3 3 5 295 3352 2850 41.31 0
51. FranÃois Cevert 46 0 1 2 129 2369 1892 41.14 0
52. Lorenzo Bandini 42 1 1 2 143 2260 1702 40.52 0
53. Luigi Villoresi 31 0 0 1 2 1533 1253 40.41 0
54. Bruce McLaren 101 0 4 3 41 5092 4031 39.91 0
55. Ralf Schumacher 180 5 6 8 358 9138 7136 39.65 0
56. Piero Taruffi %3 18 0 1 1 46 793 933 38.87 0
57. Keke Rosberg 112 4 5 3 510 5178 4250 37.95 1
58. Luigi Fagioli %2 7 0 1 0 8 351 515 36.77 0
59. Patrick Depailler 95 1 2 4 164 4635 3426 36.06 0
60. Jacques Laffite 173 7 6 6 283 7970 6228 36.00 0
Other current drivers
=====================
Six current drivers merit a full average but are below the top 60. Nico Rosberg
now gets his full average after completing his third season.
... Jenson Button 152 3 1 0 100 7768 4817 31.69 0
... Giancarlo Fisichella 211 3 3 2 210 10511 6449 30.56 0
... Nick Heidfeld 150 1 0 2 25 7964 4294 28.63 0
... Jarno Trulli 200 2 1 0 160 9888 5459 27.30 0
... Nico Rosberg 53 0 0 1 11 2695 1241 23.41 0
... Mark Webber 121 0 0 0 10 5762 2715 22.43 0
Jarno Trulli improved slightly, Mark Webber stayed the same, the others all fell
slightly.
Eight drivers have insufficient starts to qualify for a full average.
... Robert Kubica %3 39 1 1 0 74 2274 1729 33.25 0
... Heikki Kovalainen %3 35 1 1 2 31 2034 1462 31.33 0
... Sebastian Vettel %2 26 1 1 0 52 1205 828 15.93 0
... Timo Glock %2 22 0 0 0 3 1193 595 13.52 0
... Kazuki Nakajima %2 19 0 0 0 0 1094 443 11.66 0
... Nelsinho Piquet %2 18 0 0 0 13 776 403 11.21 0
... Adrian Sutil %3 35 0 0 0 0 1440 522 11.18 0
... SÈbastien Bourdais %2 18 0 0 0 3 887 359 9.98 0
Kubica, Kovalainen and Sutil complete their second seasons and move up to 75% of
their full averages. Nakajima, Piquet and Bourdais complete their first seasons
and move to 50%. Vettel and Glock remain on 50% of their full average, both
improved slightly.
--
Brian W Lawrence
Wantage,
Oxfordshire, UK
Brian_W_Lawrence@msn.com
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Wednesday, 5 November 2008
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| Tap Tap... is this thing on? Paul Ian Harman 14:30:20 |
| | Are you all hung over?
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Wot no messages after the most enthralling final laps of a championship
I can remember? Is this newsgroup dead?
I feel great admiration for Massa - something I never thought I'd say at
the start of this season. He did all that could have been asked for him,
let down by the team on several occasions but still lost out by just the
one point. One has to wonder if he'll ever get so close again, assuming
Kimi gets his mojo back. I've never seen such a distraught winner of his
home GP. To keep it together on the podium as he did, dedicating the
victory to the crowd... very moving.
The expression on his father's face when they realised the horrible
truth - priceless.
Congrats to Lewis, although he couldn't have run a worse drive. It was
all horribly reminiscent of last year, wasn't it. I don't think I'd ever
have been able to forgive Vettel - and I can't believe that in the
Ferrari-powered Torro Rosso he genuinely had no idea of the implications
of his overtake.
I think my heart rate has just about returned to normal after the last
couple of laps. I was all set to resignedly make myself a cuppa. I
should have realised what Ferrari forgot - it's never over until they
all cross the line.
I bet that McLaren will be the most scrutinised vehicle in F1 history 
Paul
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Tuesday, 4 November 2008
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| Engine Usage after 18 events - Interlagos Brian Lawrence 13:55:19 |
| | Engine Usage after 18 events - Interlagos
=========================================
E# - Number of engines used by driver/team/engine supplier in 2008
Km. - Distance covered in practice/qualifying/race in 2008
Avg. - Average distance per engine in 2008
Averages in [] indicate that the driver/team/engine supplier ended the 2008
season with a one-race engine.
All data from www.fia.com and/or forix.autosport.com.
C# Driver(s) Engine E# Km. Avg.
===========================================================
18 Takuma Sato Honda RA808E 2 1,548 [774] -----
19 Anthony Davidson Honda RA808E 2 1,145 [573] -----
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
3 Nick Heidfeld BMW P86/8 9 8,626 958
7 Nico Rosberg Toyota RVX-08 9 8,231 915
22 Lewis Hamilton Mercedes FO108V 9 7,853 873
8 Kazuki Nakajima Toyota RVX-08 9 7,626 847
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
4 Robert Kubica BMW P86/8 10 8,327 [833]
11 Jarno Trulli Toyota RVX-08 10 8,123 [812]
5 Fernando Alonso Renault RS27 10 7,947 [795]
10 Mark Webber Renault RS27 10 7,744 774
17 Rubens Barrichello Honda RA808E 10 7,397 [740]
14 Sebastien Bourdais Ferrari 056 10 7,364 [736]
16 Jenson Button Honda RA808E 10 7,151 [715]
15 Sebastian Vettel Ferrari 056 10 7,040 [704]
9 David Coulthard Renault RS27 10 6,662 666
6 Nelsinho Piquet Renault RS27 10 6,546 [654]
21 Giancarlo Fisichella Ferrari 056 10 6,495 [650]
20 Adrian Sutil Ferrari 056 10 5,920 592
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
2 Felipe Massa Ferrari 056 11 8,093 [736]
1 Kimi RÄikkÆnen Ferrari 056 11 8,007 [728]
12 Timo Glock Toyota RVX-08 11 8,214 [747]
23 Heikki Kovalainen Mercedes FO108V 11 7,782 [707]
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204 153,841 [754]
Team Engine E# Km. Avg.
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Super Aguri Honda RA808E 4 2,693 [673] -----
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Williams Toyota RVX-08 18 15,857 881
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BMW Sauber BMW P86/8 19 16,953 [892]
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McLaren Mercedes FO108V 20 15,635 [782]
Honda Honda RA808E 20 14,548 [727]
Renault Renault RS27 20 14,493 [724]
Red Bull Renault RS27 20 14,406 720
Toro Rosso Ferrari 056 20 14,404 [720]
Force India Ferrari 056 20 12,415 [621]
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Toyota Toyota RVX-08 21 16,337 [778]
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Ferrari Ferrari 056 22 16,100 [732]
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204 153,841 [754]
Engine E# Km. Avg. Team(s)
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BMW P86/8 19 16,953 [892] BMW Sauber
Toyota RVX-08 39 32,194 [825] Toyota, Williams
Mercedes FO108V 20 15,635 [782] McLaren
Renault RS27 40 28,899 [722] Renault, Red Bull
Honda RA808E 24 17,241 [718] Honda, [Super Aguri]
Ferrari 056 62 42,919 [692] Ferrari, Toro Rosso, Force India
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204 153,841 [754]
1000km engines
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There have been eleven engines that have clocked up over 1000km
in their two races:
km Engine Driver Events
============================================
1029 Toyota 11 Trulli 02/MAL & 03/BRN
1007 Toyota 12 Glock 11/HUN & 12/EUR
1019 BMW 4 Kubica 12/EUR & 13/BEL
1067 Ferrari 14 Bourdais 12/EUR & 13/BEL
1030 Ferrari 15 Vettel 12/EUR & 13/BEL
1094 BMW 3 Heidfeld 13/BEL & 14/ITA
1020 Toyota 7 Rosberg 13/BEL & 14/ITA
1086 Toyota 12 Glock 13/BEL & 14/ITA
1013 Ferrari 15 Vettel 14/ITA & 15/SIN
1009 Ferrari 14 Bourdais 16/JPN & 17/CHN
1001 Ferrari | |
