Yesterday — Tuesday, 2 December 2008
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| Dirt Track Acornct_dad 16:47:38 |
| | I think NASCAR should put two dirt track races on the Sprint Cup schedule.
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Sunday, 30 November 2008
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| OK, so now what? Mike Simmons 01:30:07 |
| | No racin' to watch, no RPG's to guess at... this cold turkey stuff sucks....
so now what do we do 'til February, swap recipes?
:^(
Mike
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Saturday, 29 November 2008
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| Re: Off-season logic puzzle Avalanche* 00:57:13 |
| | On Tue, 5 Dec 2006 21:06:37 CST, "Bob Paxton"
<redgreen43@hotmail.com> wrote:
DollarBill wrote:>> Been there done that Bob. I won't reveal the results so those that haven't>> seen it can figure it out.>> "Been there, done that"? Does that mean this is basically a repost of>one of the ones I used last year? I didn't save any of last year's>adaptations so it's entirely possible that I used one of the same base>puzzles to convert to a racing theme.
As you seem to be desig puzzlemaster, you'd best keep a sophisticated
database. Of course, he could be bluffing.>
Heck, I'm lucky to remember what I had for lunch today. Ain't no way I>can remember that far back.> I'll see if I can work up another one tomorrow.
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Friday, 28 November 2008
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Sunday, 23 November 2008
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| No Testing this Year Tom S. 07:12:26 |
| | In an announcement that has been pretty much overlooked (IMHO), NASCAR
announced on the Friday before the Homestead race that officials
announced that
"testing would be suspended as of Jan. 1 on any track hosting Sprint
Cup, Nationwide, Truck, or Camping World touring events... series
president Mike Helton said he anticipates the ban lasting for all of
next season."
While I know that the owners welcome it as a cost saving option and
drivers mostly like to have a little more time off, I wonder about the
impact.
Will the ban be total?? Including tire testing (think Brickyard)??
What are the safety implications?? Are we going to have more wrecks,
slower races, etc., because the teams have to guess more about the
setups??
I know we have a year and a half in the COT now, but a lot of teams
struggled with setup all season
What do other's think about it??
Tom S.
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Friday, 21 November 2008
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| Why I dislike Brad Dougherty Amy 02:10:15 |
| | For the past few weeks, all Brad Dougherty could say was "Jimmie Johnsons
going to win his 3rd Championship, I can't wait, it's so exciting, blah blah
blah". His lack of objectivity annoys me to no end, especially because I
would think ABC/ESPN would have hoped for a better points race so fans would
be excited to watch the last race. He talks about being a fan, but
shouldn't an announcer be objective?
Amy
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Tuesday, 18 November 2008
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| RPG Final TomS Tom S. 06:38:21 |
| | I think I have a lock on last place for the season. But, my total is
higher than last season, so there really is hope for the hopelessly
klutzy. (((^:
2008 Results:
Segment one total - +14
Segment two total - +11
Chase total - +18
RPG total - +43
Tom S
2007 RPG results:
Segment one total - + 5
Segment two total - +10
Chase total - + 8
RPG total - +23
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| Re: RPG Homestead (Chase X) Tom S. +5/+18 Tom S. 06:29:45 |
| | On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 17:35:52 CST, "Tom S." <tscalfjr@cox.net> wrote:
I am going to be in Knoxville, TN for a family reunion this weekend and probably will not even get to see the race. The reunion is Sunday afternoon. So, I am going to put in some real WAGs and hope I hit something.
Family Reunion was great. Had 42 people there, plus at least 20 more
who couldn't come for one reason or the other. But, it is almost
10:00 PM and I drove 480 miles today. I know the drivers do that and
more every weekend. But not in the weather and dark, and not with the
idiots I shared the road with tonight. Jeez Louize!! Let's see how
well my picks did, considering that I made them before qualifying.
Hmmmmmmmmmm!!
Winner: Cousin Carl. I got a feeling he will either bring home a trophy or the steering wheel.
+3 Yep!! CC brought home the trophy, if not the championship. Hey!!
I think this is my first winner pick!!
1. DEJr outside the top 20. Not one of his better tracks.
+1 A wheel bearing went out??? When was the last time that
happened. had to be a long time ago.
2. David Ragan adds another top 10 to his resume
+0 24th one lap down.... Not a top-10 finish. But he did finish 13th
in points. The first non-chaser.
3. David Reutimann brings a smile to Mikey's face with a top 10 finish.
+0 I think I read in the hometown paper that he had to stop for fuel
with 11 to go , but danged if I can find it now. And N.com doesn't
have the Lap-by-Lap posted, either. Anyway, he finished in 20th.
4. Marcos Ambrose brings the Little Debbie car in for a top-15 finish.
+0 He tried, but received an introduction to the wall courtesy of
Reed Sorenson sort of messed up his day.
5. No more than 5 Chasers in the top 12
+1 Five exactly! Hard to believe I got it. I would have thought the
Chasers would be a little more aggressive in the last race.
Segment one total - +14
Segment two total - +11
Chase points going in - +13
Race total - + 5
Chase Points to Date - + 18
Tom S
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| value of a NASCAR ticket John McCoy 02:11:01 |
| | I was offered free tickets to the Homestead Cup race. I turned
them down. And that got me to wondering about the value of
the tickets (in a real-world sense, not a dollar value).
Some years back I got free tickets several years running, and
was happy to get them. One year, for the Busch race, I was running
late and left home after 11, getting to the track in just over
an hour (on the motorcycle, taking a back road and considerable
liberties with the speed limit). It was a decent race, worth
watching, and I got home in time to go out to dinner around 8.
This year, tho, the Cup race starts at 4 (!). Given that more
folk know of the back-road route by now, it'll take the better
part of 3 hours getting home...meaning that, unless the race
runs pretty much caution free, I'd be home close to midnight.
And that's simply too late, too much time invested, for the
quality of race I'd expect to see. I'm really not interested
in sitting around in the sun all afternoon waiting for the
pre-race BS to get over with, so I can watch a bunch of guys
fight aero-push instead of passing.
So, to me, the value of the "free" tickets would actually be
negative - you'd have to pay me, or give me some other thing
of value, for me to use my time watching the race at the track.
Which is a sad commentary on where NASCAR has gone.
John
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Monday, 17 November 2008
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| NASCAR Awards Banquet Dan 19:05:21 |
| | Does anyone know when this years NASCAR awards banquet is being
held/broadcasted?
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| Simmons - RPG Final Mike Simmons 02:28:45 |
| | Here are my totals for the season RPG's
Segment 1 - 26
Segment 2 - 31
Segment 3 - 39
Total - 96
How'd everybody else do?
Mike
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| Simmons - RPG - Homestead - 5/39 Mike Simmons 02:28:45 |
| | Well, this it it... fer all the marbles... so here are my top five (in no
order, of course).
Edwards - 1
Harvick - 1
Kenseth -0
Hamlin -0
Biffle - 0
Speed and Truex both showed up on my radar this week, but I don't think they
have the staying power to get the job done, so I bumped 'em fer Hamlin and
Biffle.
My pick fer the winner... Cuzzin' Carl of course, but it wouldn't surprise
me to see either Kenseth or the Biffster sneak in for a win too. Yippee! +3
I know pig picked Johnson for the win, but I think he will play it safe and
will likely not even be a top fiver. He won't lay back much, but he will be
VERY cautious.
And he was! Congrats to JJ, Knaus, Hendrick, Chevy and everybody on the 48
team.... well done!
Mike
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| Re: RPG Pig Homestead (Chase X) +1 +28 Megan Zurawicz 02:28:45 |
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On 11/15/08 19:48, in article C544D803.64C9A%listpig@sbcglobal.net, "Megan
Zurawicz" <listpig@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
How many days to Daytona? <sigh> OK: Top Ota: Speed looks *good*, but I don't think he's got the experience to sustain it. The numbers say the best of the Otas is Scott Speed, Denny Hamlin and David Reutimann, not necessarily in that order. Hamlin shows as marginally better, so we'll go with Denny. Nope, Smoke in his last Ota Outing.
Top Fjord: Cousin Carl, I think. His numbers are better, and winning the day before does seem to make him run better too. My one and only point.
Top Chevy: Easily JJ. No contest. Hokey Harvick. No point.
Top Dodge: Nobody's all that great, by the numbers, but you've got four guys all close to equal: Kahne, Newman and KuBu are all in a clump, but just a hair ahead of them is Reed Sorenson. Nope. Shoulda gone with Kahne. No point.
Largest # of cars in top 10: Interesting. Between qualifying and 3 practices, one manufacturer was dominant in each; none dominated more than one. But Homestead's been House of Roush for a long time; I'm going to say Ford will have the most in the top 10 (including tied for most in prediction). 3 Fjord. 5 Chebbie. No point.
Winner: I want it to be Cousin Carl. I really do. But I think there's a major risk that for the first time in Chase history, the final race winner and the champion will be the same guy......and the numbers really back that. So JJ to take the race and the season.
Shoulda kept the faith. Way to go, Carl!
--pig
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| RPG Pig Points 2008 Final Megan Zurawicz 02:28:45 |
| | First Half: 25
Second Half: 17
Chase: 28
Season total: 70
Skunked by Simmons.
--pig
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Sunday, 16 November 2008
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| thinking about Nationwide fields John McCoy 02:30:00 |
| | There's 52 cars attempting the Nationwide race at Homestead.
A big field for the last race is common, but next year everyone
seems to expect short fields at a lot of races.
Here's something which NASCAR might look into, which ought to
help that: tow money. It used to be common in many series
(including NASCAR's top series, when it was called Grand
National) for promotors to pay teams a small sum just to show
up, to cover the cost of bringing the car to the track. That
way the team was assured of not being out of pocket if they
failed to run well, while the promotor was assured of a big,
crowd-pleasing field.
So what I'm thinking is, in Nationwide the purse is about the
same, $15k or $20k depending on the event, for all positions
from 30th on back. So let's take something, say $5k, from the
last 5 positions payout. That gives us a pool of $25. From
that, we'll payout $2500 to each driver who attempts qualifying
but fails to get in the race. That's to cover a set of tires
and some gas money. More than 10 guys, just split the $25k
evenly. Less than 10, put the extra back into the payout for
the last 5 finishers in the race.
I see this achieving several ends:
it helps ensure big fields, which is good for attendance.
it helps open up more rides, which provides opportunities for
young drivers.
it helps keep some marginal/regional teams in the sport, who
might run a stronger program when the economy improves.
it discourages start-n-park, by opening up the money spread
if a team finishes better than 38th.
John
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| RPG Pig Homestead (Chase X) Megan Zurawicz 02:30:00 |
| | How many days to Daytona? <sigh>
OK:
Top Ota: Speed looks *good*, but I don't think he's got the experience to
sustain it. The numbers say the best of the Otas is Scott Speed, Denny
Hamlin and David Reutimann, not necessarily in that order. Hamlin shows as
marginally better, so we'll go with Denny.
Top Fjord: Cousin Carl, I think. His numbers are better, and winning the
day before does seem to make him run better too.
Top Chevy: Easily JJ. No contest.
Top Dodge: Nobody's all that great, by the numbers, but you've got four
guys all close to equal: Kahne, Newman and KuBu are all in a clump, but just
a hair ahead of them is Reed Sorenson.
Largest # of cars in top 10: Interesting. Between qualifying and 3
practices, one manufacturer was dominant in each; none dominated more than
one. But Homestead's been House of Roush for a long time; I'm going to say
Ford will have the most in the top 10 (including tied for most in
prediction).
Winner: I want it to be Cousin Carl. I really do. But I think there's a
major risk that for the first time in Chase history, the final race winner
and the champion will be the same guy......and the numbers really back that.
So JJ to take the race and the season.
--pig
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| RPG - McCoy - Homestead John McCoy 02:30:00 |
| | Last one...
The Win: Greg Biffle has owned this race, but I don't think he'll
continue his streak. I'm going to go with Kevin Harvick, who also
runs this track decent and has been pretty respectable the last
few races.
Best Ford: I'll go with Biffle to finish best of the Fords. If
it were closer points-wise, I'd go with Edwards to make the extra
effort and the rest of the Roush guys to make discretition the
better part of valour, but since the points are moot I think
they'll race and Biffle will be strong.
Best Dodge: Kahne's in trouble with the law down here, and I
think maybe that'll put him in "drive it like you stole it" mode,
to post the best Dodge finish.
Best Toyota: Reutimann's on pole, Speed is outside. Reut will
run decent, Speed will not. Best Toyota at the end will be
Kyle Busch.
Best Rookie: Man, got a bunch of 'em this week: Hornish, Smith,
Speed, Ambrose, Keselowski, McCumbee, and Ambrose. Speed was
really fast (in someone else's car) in quals. But Almirola has
the most talent of the bunch, and I'll pick him for top rookie
finish.
Story #1: Reutimann backs up the qualifying run with a T10.
Story #2: Ambrose (in his own car) finishes ahead of Speed (in
Vicker's car) and wraps up position 35 in the owner points.
(yeah, that's six picks. I forgot to score the last couple of
races, and I'm way behind Mike anyway, so I don't figure it
matters)
John
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| Simmons - RPG - Chase Finale Mike Simmons 02:30:00 |
| | Well, this it it... fer all the marbles... so here are my top five (in no
order, of course).
Edwards
Harvick
Kenseth
Hamlin
Biffle
Speed and Truex both showed up on my radar this week, but I don't think they
have the staying power to get the job done, so I bumped 'em fer Hamlin and
Biffle.
My pick fer the winner... Cuzzin' Carl of course, but it wouldn't surprise
me to see either Kenseth or the Biffster sneak in for a win too.
I know pig picked Johnson for the win, but I think he will play it safe and
will likely not even be a top fiver. He won't lay back much, but he will be
VERY cautious.
Let the games begin!
Mike
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Saturday, 15 November 2008
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| The way it oughta be... NCTS Mike Simmons 23:41:12 |
| | Now THAT'S the way to end a season! Not knowing who the champ is until
virtually the last lap! Congrats to Johnny Benson for a great year!
Mike
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Friday, 14 November 2008
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| RPG Homestead (Chase X) Tom S. Tom S. 16:46:16 |
| | I am going to be in Knoxville, TN for a family reunion this weekend
and probably will not even get to see the race. The reunion is Sunday
afternoon. So, I am going to put in some real WAGs and hope I hit
something.
Winner: Cousin Carl. I got a feeling he will either bring home a
trophy or the steering wheel.
1. DEJr outside the top 20. Not one of his better tracks.
2. David Ragan adds another top 10 to his resume
3. David Reutimann brings a smile to Mikey's face with a top 10
finish.
4. Marcos Ambrose brings the Little Debbie car in for a top-15
finish.
5. No more than 5 Chasers in the top 12
Segment one total - +14
Segment two total - +11
Chase points going in - +13
Race total - +
Chase Points to Date - +
Tom S
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Thursday, 13 November 2008
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| Re: RPG Phoenix II (Chase IX) Tom S. +1/+13 Tom S. 02:08:48 |
| | On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 22:36:06 -0500, Tom S. <tscalfjr@cox.net> wrote:
Repost by mail.... It is not showing up on my newsserver.
On Sat, 08 Nov 2008 23:50:14 -0500, Tom S. <tscalfjr@cox.net> wrote: Full practices and qualifying for the second straight week..... Will wonders never cease!! It must be the time for miracles.
Jimmie Johnson now has to finish 36th or higher at Homestead to have
the championship sown up, Matt Kenseth played payback and caused a big
one on the last lap, and a rain delay in Arizona..... typical day at
the races.
Winner: Mark Martin...... +0 Not this time. He finishes 14th
1. Ryan Newman scores a top 10... I wanted to call him, the winner, but I just don't have the confidence in him any more....
+0 Early pit strategy got him up front, but then a flat tire put him
a lap down and it was downhill from there.
2. David Reuytimann might win but he will definitely finish in the top 10.
+0 Ran well early, but just kept slipping back....
3. David Ragan sorta sucked in Happy Hour, but he qualified well. He will get it squared away and finish with a solid top 15.
+1 Finished 10th. He is really starting to show his stuff.
4. Kyle Petty is back in the 45, but it won't help. Both Petty cars (43 and 45) will finish outside the top 30.
+0 Bobby recovered well from practice and qualifying.
5. No more than 5 chasers in the top 12.
+0 Looks like 9 made it this week.
Segment one total - +14
Segment two total - +11
Chase points going in - +12
Race total - + 1
Chase Points to Date - + 13
Tom S
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